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Hanon_CTS wrote:
What do you adjust most during a show?
How does your audio tech feel about it?
On bigger shows, if I even touched one of my volume knobs, I was "strongly cautioned"
Cheers, Hanon
I know what you mean about the bigger shows - "strongly cautioned" is a fair description.
We play in a lot of different scenarios. A lot of times we have no sound man. We get a sound check before we start but it always seems like the band gets louder as the night wears on. So, I sometimes have to adjust the volume. I normally use 2 keyboards (although I'm trying to get it down to one since I got the NS2) and the other keyboard sometimes needs a little EQ adjustment.
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I looked for a similar mixer without finding anything currently available in a 1U rack. I settled for the Behringer RX1602 as the only realistic alternative. An old discontinued mixer that exactly mets your requirements is the Toa D3. I had one many years ago and it did the job fine. You may be able to find one on eBay if you're prepared to wait.
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walkerdata wrote:The Motu mixer looks like it might be hard to adjust during a show! If there was a way to control from an ipad, I might would consider it. I don't use a computer at our live gigs. (I use the iPad for set list.)
I had looked at the Nady. It appears to be an affordable solution minus the eq. I guess I could eq in some other way.
Anyway, I'm still looking...
Hello walkerdata!can you tell me more about how you controll via ipad?!?
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Petrounic wrote:
Hello walkerdata!can you tell me more about how you controll via ipad?!?
Sorry I wasn't very clear on that post.
I don't control the Nord with an iPad. I use the iPad (and an app named Set List Maker) to display our set list. If you play live and have an ipad, check out that app!
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Petrounic wrote:
Hello walkerdata!can you tell me more about how you controll via ipad?!?
Sorry I wasn't very clear on that post.
I don't control the Nord with an iPad. I use the iPad (and an app named Set List Maker) to display our set list. If you play live and have an ipad, check out that app!
Thanks walkerdata I will se this app!sorry for my english
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RedLeo wrote:I looked for a similar mixer without finding anything currently available in a 1U rack. I settled for the Behringer RX1602 as the only realistic alternative. An old discontinued mixer that exactly mets your requirements is the Toa D3. I had one many years ago and it did the job fine. You may be able to find one on eBay if you're prepared to wait.
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RedLeo,
On your recommendation, I found a TOA D-3 and it's on it's way to me. I'll let you know how it works out.
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walkerdata wrote:If it had bass and treble on each channel, it would be perfect.
You'll hardly find a single unit rack mixer with bass/treble. To be pedantic: you'll find bass/treble knobs mostly on HiFi gear or in a more extended form (bass/treble/mid, bass/lo-mid-hi-mid/treble) on DJ-mixers. Use professionals uses e-quee-lazers for this.
RedLeo wrote:I looked for a similar mixer without finding anything currently available in a 1U rack. I settled for the Behringer RX1602 as the only realistic alternative. An old discontinued mixer that exactly mets your requirements is the Toa D3. I had one many years ago and it did the job fine. You may be able to find one on eBay if you're prepared to wait.
ToaD3.jpg
RedLeo,
On your recommendation, I found a TOA D-3 and it's on it's way to me. I'll let you know how it works out.
May I ask what you paid and how it worked out for you?
I think you missed reading his followup post written 10/4/11:
"Update: I bought a used TOA D-3 (and it sure was used) and tried it out. A little too noisy for me."
IMHO:
The Behringer is a very poor solution. I used one for a couple years until one side of the stereo bus started going intermittent. I was forced to go straight to band's main mixer (basic Mackie). The HUGE improvement in my sound quality was a slap in the face. When I took it in for service the tech at the shop 1) laughed at me, 2) asked how long I'd been playing it, 3) asked how much I'd paid for it, and 4) reminded me of his hourly rate, and 5) told me to throw it in the garbage and buy another one.
The first half of his advice was pretty good (but I gave it to someone who could use it). However, I just can't wrap my head around buying disposable mixers. Especially ones which make you sound bad even when they're working properly.
Bought an Ashly LX308B after scrounging a pile of money. Has been a GREAT 1U line mixer for me for many years now. One feature which it lacks (and the Behringer has, ironically) is separate volume controls for L&R main outs; they have single volume control and a pan. I like to feed the house separate lines for my bass and keys parts by panning them hard to the sides, so independent volume controls are handy.
Last fall I bought a Presonus 16.0.2 for mixing around town gigs and it has really sweet channel strip features: EQ, compression, gate, hi pass, limiter, plus two f/x. Now I split up my voices completely: the NS2 sends stereo pianos, mono organs and mono synths, then there's two stereos feeds from a G2E and a mono feed from Micro Modular (playing bass). Six channels of keyboards all with independent channel strips in an easy-to-use package which is also a firewire recording interface! This has created a huge problem for me: hard to go back to the Ashly. Even when I'm not running sound I still want the Presonus there for all those features.
They have a solution which I'll probably be trying out sometime soon: 1818VSL. It's a 1U mixer with level controls on the front panel and has all the same channel strip features of the 16.0.2 I've been using. To control them you gotta have a computer running their mixer software, and if you want you can set up ipad to control that wirelessly. Only time and money are holding me back at the moment (like most all things in life).
Anyone else here with some of that time and money available would probably do well to pick up one of those and check it out. Until something better comes out, that feature set in a 1U package is really sweet.
For non-featured plain line mixers, Tascam now has a nice eight stereo channel line mixer with two stereo output buses which fits into 1U. And I think I saw something from ART last week....?
