Volume Control

[stelmerfudd]

Hi,

Newbie. Sorry if this question has been run into the ground here. I did search and did not find exactly the answer I was looking for.

I have a Nord Stage 88 with midi out to a Roland MKS-20 piano module. I'm using a Yamaha FC-7 volume pedal in the control pedal input on the Nord. I went into configuration and set it for the Yamaha pedal.

This pedal now only controls the volume for the MKS-20 and not for the Nord. I was hoping to find a pedal that will control the volume for both the Nord and for the MKS-20 at the same time and control the mix of the keyboard sounds with the level control knob on the Nord.

Is there any pedal that will do that? Or should I just use a line level volume control pedal to control the volume of the Nord separately? And if so which one would you recommend?

Thanks for your reply.

Richard

[-Toro-]

Hi Richard!

try this!
1. connect the FC-7 to the SWELL PEDAL jack instead.
2. enter SYSTEM MENU and PAGE to "Swell Pedal Type". select "Yamaha".
3. PAGE to "Swell Pedal Dest". select "All".

according to the manual:
"This setting configure the Swell Pedal destination.
Set this to Organ if only the Organ section should be
controlled or to All if the volume of all sections should
be controlled."
this should be meaning that even the EXTERNAL SECTION is controlled by the swell pedal? but i'm not sure.

however, the swell pedal controls VOLUME, not EXPRESSION in this case.
if you're using your MKS-20 in single timbre mode you wont notice any difference. but if you're working in a multi timbral mode there will be problems!

in the later case you may consider an additional pedal (in the control pedal jack) to adjust the expression of the MKS-20.

hope this helps!

[stelmerfudd]

Hi,

Very much appreciate the response. I will try your suggestion.

I think its so strange that Nord doesn't have pedals for their keyboards.

Cheers,
Richard

[-Toro-]

well, they do!
they sell the Nord pedal keys 27 for the C2 and the Nord triple pedal for the Nord Piano.
and i do own a sustain pedal from Clavia! :-) but i don't think they are buyable anymore...

i think it's a good thing to make Nord keyboards compatible with pedals from other manufactures!

and by the way, very welcome to this forum! i hope you will enjoy it and find it useful!

[stelmerfudd]

Hi Toro,

Thanks for the welcome.

I looked at the Nord triple pedal and that looks like they are only sustain type functionality like you would have on an acoustic piano. I got that covered with a Yamaha sustain pedal. That works just fine.

A friend of mine is sending me a couple of spare CV (control voltage) type pedals to try.

I really like how the keys feel on this piano but have been disappointed in the acoustic piano sounds although I do need to upgrade the OS and check out the newer piano sounds in the library.

Looking forward being a part of this group and any opportunities I might have to contribute.

Have a good one!

Richard

[-Toro-]

hi again.
the Nord triple pedal is only compatible with the Nord Piano. it won't work on your Stage.
only expression pedals (with stereo plugs, like your FC-7) and regular sustain pedals and foot switches will do.

i'm pretty sure the NS won't support CV pedals. what do you want to achieve?

the Nord piano library v.5 is very nice. certainly you'll find a piano sample among those that will strike your fancy! :-)
good luck!

[stelmerfudd]

Hi,

The main thing that I'm trying find a volume pedal for is to control the volume of everything coming out of the Nord. Something that works like a master volume like the master volume knob on the extreme upper left of the keyboard.

I have a Yamaha FC-7, I think, I don't see FC-7 on it anywhere but from the descriptions and the pictures it looks like it. That pedal now controls the volume on an MKS-20 rack mount piano module. It doesn't control the volume of the Nord voices, only the MKS-20. So my dream is to control the Nord and MKS-20 volume with just one pedal plugged into the Nord.

Thanks,
Richard

[-Toro-]

you say you want to control everything that comes out of the Nord Stage? that you can accomplish by following my first post in this thread...
but what i'm not sure about, is whether you can simultaniuosly control everything that comes out of your Korg with the same pedal! try and see if it works! and please let us know.

there's also another option that may work... connect your FC-7 to the control pedal jack at the rear panel and let it control the volume (or expression) of your EXTERN section. add a MORPH function to the control pedal, that lowers the volume of all other sections (such as the piano, organ and synth section). this should solve it.

however, you need to do this setup for each PROGRAM, since it's not a global setting.

are you with me, pal'? :-)

[stelmerfudd]

Hi,

Thanks so much for your post. Will try what you suggest tonight. I've been a little behind the eight ball pal.

You guys are cool.

Thanks

I will for sure let you know. I'll be giving you the whole scoop.

[stelmerfudd]

Finally got a chance to get things hooked up as you suggested.

Except that if I put it into the Swell Input I can't get anything out of the MKS-20. If I plug into the Control Input the pedal controls both the MKS-20 and everything in the Nord.

I'm sure it works like you suggested but I barely know what I'm doing with this thing. I changed something in the Extern section and I'm not sure what I did or if that has something to do with this volume pedal configuration.

It's working like I wanted it to, however, after playing with that configuration for a while I thought it would be cool to be able to, when I wanted to have two pedals, one that would control just the MKS-20 and one that would control the Nord as well to mix the sounds with my feet.

I have a Roland EV-5 that doesn't really seem to control the volume very well at all. I also have a Peavey CV 1 that I haven't tried yet.

It would probably help out a lot if I understood the architecture a lot better. I'll just keep at it.

Thanks for all your help.

Happy Holidays. Peace on Earth, Goodwill to All Men.