Setlist in the NE 6

[Rusty Mike]

>With the NE6, which of the three is it a MUST DO and what sample, piano or organ is eliminated from using the effect EQ? <

Yeah, that's a little clunky and sometimes you have to use two hands to fix it on the fly which is not the best situation.

Songlists - I've tried very hard in my live "career" to keep my total sound count as low as possible. I feel if I stray over 8 sounds (that includes different acoustic pianos or organs) then I am becoming more of an effects machine than a keyboardist.

Piano, Rhodes, and B3 should comprise 90% of what I play - I'll suffer the band's request for some synth crap on one or two numbers, and I'll do horns ONCE an evening, when we play "I Wish." If they want strings, I tell them to hire an orchestra. It's a bar, people, it's not a conservatory.

Watch the Beatles' rooftop concert - that's all you need. A suitcase Sparkletop...

The nature of my music is pretty similar. 80% of what I play is acoustic piano. I tend to use the Grand Lady D and Amber Upright based on the particular song, room acoustics and how my ear is perceiving things. I look for opportunities to play EP whenever I can, but also rely only on the Nefertiti and MkI Close Ideal for those times. Even then, I have an EQ setting I like (and store with the program) and then tweak the effects as needed. Organ is similar - I have about 3 or 4 basic B3 programs that I just tweak on the fly.

This means that I can pretty much store my entire repertoire in a small number of programs, which makes navigating very easy. I could probably simplify it even further by setting up the organ settings within a piano program, then just switch over to the organ engine without even changing the program.

For the fusion band, I have a handful of song-specific programs, but they are few and I look for reuse opportunities where possible.

But I'm sure I'm not the norm here. I don't play any pop or rock music whatsoever.

[Geobluesguy]

I play a NE5D 73 by itself for gigs less than one hour and/or difficult load-in. I'm in the same place musically as Gambold and Rusty Mike. I only use AP, B3, Rhodes, and Wurly with occasional clav. Once in a blue moon, when a bass player pulls a no-show I may have to cover left hand bass which, although not optimal, my NE5D allows me to do with a split. I play roots Americana music focused on blues, old soul, and R&R with a touch of rockabilly, country/ honky tonk, old funk, and jazz standards. I can cover pretty much everything that's thrown at me with 6 - 7 "songs" in setlist mode.

[Blueguitar007]

There's no setlist button on the 6 so don't hold your breath waiting for a software upgrade to add the setlist. Just keep your 5, it's fine, so you are more careful on the transitions but I wouldn't sweat the three engines on a program, it's an electic piano/organ not a Stage Model. Frankly, I think the stage models pack too much into one keyboard; I'd rather have a separate synth myself. Love your 5 and it's wonderful setlist. I wouldn't trade mine for a 6 quite frankly.

[Blueguitar007]

Do you think the E6 functionality is so you can tweak the program and it stays different from the original program? Am I thinking correctly on this... I don't it own an E6.
Ie. You have a B3 program, you save it in a "page" that's supposed to be a song, but you add some EQ or effects and it's different than the original program?
Anyway, this seems stupid too frankly.

[uglymule]

I've been working with the E6D for about 6 months now & I find the lack of a set list to be a huge annoyance.

As difficult as my MOXF was to learn, the memory scheme is way more flexible.
I can take any of the factory voices & drop it into a performance and not disturb the other 3 carefully crafted voices.
Then I can edit the newly inserted voice, without changing the factory voice, and plug the edited voice into yet another performance location.

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Also, why can't you rename and delete the category names or create your own?

I got the Electro 6D for the drawbars but I'm about ready to sell it in favor of continuing with my MOXF6, on top, in a double stack with my Yamaha P121 as the primary acoustic piano. Mainly because of the lack of song mode as described by others here.

[Blueguitar007]

It just seems like a big headache whichever way you slice it frankly.

[mike cap]

I use my NE5 for a Beatles tribute band. I also play guitar a lot in that band so I’m constantly having to switch back and forth between instruments (sometimes even mid song). I have to use setlist mode because I can’t afford the time it takes to keep switching between programs and finding the one I need. I absolutely love setlist mode because I just turn the dial one click and -boom- my sounds are ready for the next song. And if we change the setlist right before the show, all I have to do is rearrange a couple songs, and that’s easy. If I bought the NE6 I’d be pretty pissed to find out they cut that function. In fact if my NE5 craps out I will definitely not be getting the 6. And now I can’t live without them physical drawbars so I don’t know if I could do the stage.

[anotherscott]

In NE5 setlist you can change volume and other parameters that won't affect the original program. If you are just copying a program in the NE6 the parameters stay the same.

It's the other way around. In NE5 setlist, each entry calls up the original program (so any change you make is made to the original program, and is reflected in any other song that includes that program). In the NE6, each "song" (i.e. each organzied set of 4 Programs) contains its own unique copy of each of its component programs, so changes saved are unique to that instance of the sound.

I have to use setlist mode because I can’t afford the time it takes to keep switching between programs and finding the one I need. I absolutely love setlist mode because I just turn the dial one click and -boom- my sounds are ready for the next song. And if we change the setlist right before the show, all I have to do is rearrange a couple songs, and that’s easy. If I bought the NE6 I’d be pretty pissed to find out they cut that function.

As I described earlier in this thread (and quoted in the post directly above yours), I think the NE6 gives you that same functionality.

In fact if my NE5 craps out I will definitely not be getting the 6. And now I can’t live without them physical drawbars so I don’t know if I could do the stage.

The Stage 3 has drawbars on the 73-key semi-weighted version, just as the Electro 5 and 6 do on their semi-weighted versions.

[Blueguitar007]

Ya I'm wrong - any changes on NE5 made in setlist mode are there as long as you have that setlist still up.
Otherwise you have to hit the save to program to make permanent changes.
It's confusing cuz it says "Save to setlist" and it stays there - but once you turn the knob to another setlist the change is gone just like using live buttons.
Sorry for telling wrong info...Nords are stupidly simple yet confusing as hell.

[Blueguitar007]

In NE5 setlist you can change volume and other parameters that won't affect the original program. If you are just copying a program in the NE6 the parameters stay the same.

It's the other way around. In NE5 setlist, each entry calls up the original program (so any change you make is made to the original program, and is reflected in any other song that includes that program). In the NE6, each "song" (i.e. each organzied set of 4 Programs) contains its own unique copy of each of its component programs, so changes saved are unique to that instance of the sound.


You are correct. It tricked me cuz the setlist changes on E5 stay saved until you change the setlist or exit out. So it only changes temporarily when you are still in that song.
Sorry, I hate when ppl say the wrong thing, I honestly thought it did. But it doesn't - although if you hit the save as or save button again (I forgot which) it will prompt you to make the save to the original program.

I have to use setlist mode because I can’t afford the time it takes to keep switching between programs and finding the one I need. I absolutely love setlist mode because I just turn the dial one click and -boom- my sounds are ready for the next song. And if we change the setlist right before the show, all I have to do is rearrange a couple songs, and that’s easy. If I bought the NE6 I’d be pretty pissed to find out they cut that function.

As I described earlier in this thread (and quoted in the post directly above yours), I think the NE6 gives you that same functionality.

In fact if my NE5 craps out I will definitely not be getting the 6. And now I can’t live without them physical drawbars so I don’t know if I could do the stage.

The Stage 3 has drawbars on the 73-key semi-weighted version, just as the Electro 5 and 6 do on their semi-weighted versions.