Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
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What a great list!!! please may you add the last EP9 Stockholm to the list? thank you.
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Fair point. I really forgot to add that. The original list has been updated multiple times as you may have seen.
May I ask you to delete the above quote of the list? It's outdated now and will be more and more, I hope.
May I ask you to delete the above quote of the list? It's outdated now and will be more and more, I hope.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
Found the following comment from the video linked below and thought it would be useful for your list:
"Sampletekk is one of THE most underrated piano library producers EVER. Some might know that Nord uses several Sampletekk libraries in their Piano Library-- Rain Piano (Rain Upright MKII), Concert Grand (Black Grand MKII), Studio Grand 1 (TBO MKII), Studio Grand 2 (7CG MKII), and, while not available from Sampletekk's site anymore... they did "The Old Lady MKII" (which is Nord's Grand Lady D), and "Emperor MKII" (which is Nord's Grand Imperial). Phenomenal libraries and worth every penny. Plus, they have sales a lot! Totally worth it. Btw, THANK YOU for showcasing these amazing pianos with your immense talent. More people need to know about Sampletekk."
"Sampletekk is one of THE most underrated piano library producers EVER. Some might know that Nord uses several Sampletekk libraries in their Piano Library-- Rain Piano (Rain Upright MKII), Concert Grand (Black Grand MKII), Studio Grand 1 (TBO MKII), Studio Grand 2 (7CG MKII), and, while not available from Sampletekk's site anymore... they did "The Old Lady MKII" (which is Nord's Grand Lady D), and "Emperor MKII" (which is Nord's Grand Imperial). Phenomenal libraries and worth every penny. Plus, they have sales a lot! Totally worth it. Btw, THANK YOU for showcasing these amazing pianos with your immense talent. More people need to know about Sampletekk."
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Interesting !!
And if you also visit this link: https://www.sampletekk.com/about_us it seems very logical why they have chosen SampleTekk
It might be possible that they also used some Rhodes from SampleTekk too... I might be wrong.
And if you also visit this link: https://www.sampletekk.com/about_us it seems very logical why they have chosen SampleTekk
It might be possible that they also used some Rhodes from SampleTekk too... I might be wrong.
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I would personally like to see Nord integrate PianoTeq instead. The physical modelling is, in my and many others' opinion, superior now to samples.
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I grew up playing one of these, which was bought for my mother as a child in the 30's. It was a lovely little awful piano. So much that was great and so much that was terrible. I guess I'd have to say that it was hard to make a spinet sound much better, and upright actions of that era were what they were (super light, making dynamic control difficult.) Regardless, I'm grateful I had it to play and learn on! And I think you're right that it's an Acrosonic.PScooter63 wrote:I'm convinced that the Bambino is a Baldwin Acrosonic, although what year I couldn't begin to guess. Sonically, it's a dead match for my mom-in-law's, from the mid-1940s.
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Play it on a semi-weighted action, and you're really not far off!Skylight wrote:The Bambino really helped when I had to prepare for playing a spinet at a venue. It's so different that it throws me off sometimes!
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Good idea!
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After my original table probably got corrupted during forum software update, I tried to create it anew with the new ascii table format.
With Piano 5 and Stage 4, all piano samples are v. 6.x.
Note: "Grand Imperial Lrg 6.1 and Bright Grand Med 6.1 do not support Soft Release, and Ballad EP1 Med 6.0 supports incorrectly String Resonance." (ElectroStrat summarising some problematic findings in the restore pack for Stage 4) So, there are some issues at the moment with the latest versions.
(last updated: 2024-10)
I left out most 'non-piano' piano samples (harpsi, vibra etc.) as well as the layered digital versions. I also didn't include the secret pianos that can be found on this forum.
I didn't label the timbre of the APs because this will schedule too much. Besides, most information given at the moment is available through hints that anyone can get with a Nord under his/her fingers. There are some claims and rumours about relations to SampleTekk sounds; the only one I really believe in is this short forum entry. Details for release dates thanks to a post from ajstan.
With Piano 5 and Stage 4, all piano samples are v. 6.x.
Note: "Grand Imperial Lrg 6.1 and Bright Grand Med 6.1 do not support Soft Release, and Ballad EP1 Med 6.0 supports incorrectly String Resonance." (ElectroStrat summarising some problematic findings in the restore pack for Stage 4) So, there are some issues at the moment with the latest versions.
(last updated: 2024-10)
Name | Version | Instrument presumed | Technical notes | Released in or before | Sizes, MB (legacy) |
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Soft Grand | 6.2 | Yamaha G2 | ? | 12/2023 | 199/118/97/61 |
White Grand | 6.3 | Steinway B-211 | ? (by SampleTekk 2016?, maybe related to SampleTekk's White Grand) | 06/2019 | 204/129/114/69 (245/155/110/67) |
Royal Grand 3D | 6.1 | Yamaha S6 | dummy head (ambient), for use with headphones | 12/2016 | 208/103/86/54 (200/99/82/51) |
Velvet Grand | 6.1 | Blüthner Model 1 | ? | 12/2015 | 197/112/92/61 (190/106/87/58) |
Silver Grand | 6.1 | Shigeru Kawai SK-7 | ? | 07/2015 | 203/105/89/55 (194/100/85/53) |
Italian Grand | 6.1 | Fazioli ? | slightly ambient? | 12/2012 | 189/101/85/51 (182/97/82/49) |
Bright Grand | 6.1 | Yamaha S4 | ? | 06/2011 | 195/88/74/45 (196/87/72/44) |
Grand Imperial | 6.1 | Bösendorfer Imperial | ? (maybe related to SampleTekk's Emperor MkII) | 03/2011 | 198/90/75/44 (197/90/74/44) |
Grand Lady D | 5.3 | Steinway D-274 | (maybe related to SampleTekk's Old Lady Mk2) | 03/2011 | 79/61/39 |
Studio Grand 1 | 5.3 | Yamaha C 7 | close-up (derived from SampleTekk's The Big One Mk2) | 03/2011 | 69/57/35 |
Studio Grand 2 | 6.2 | Yamaha C 7 | close-up, custom preamps (maybe related to SampleTekk's 7CG Mk2) | 03/2011 | 177/94/81/49 (69/55/34) |
Concert Grand close | 5.3 | Steinway D-274 | close-up, for live (related to SampleTekk's Black Grand Mk2) | 03/2011 | 58/46/29 |
Concert Grand ambient | 5.3 | Steinway D-274 | ambient: concert hall, for recording (related to SampleTekk's Black Grand Mk2) | 03/2011 | 57/44/29 |
Steinway No1 | 5.2 | Steinway No.1 'Kitchen Piano' replica (1836/2006) | ? | 01/2017 | 132 |
Mozart FortePno A.Walter | 6.1 | Anton Walter Fortepiano (1780~1800) | ? | 01/2016 | 157/110/95/59 (149/105/91/56) |
Beethoven ForteP Broadwood | 5.3 | Thomas Broadwood Fortepiano (~1820) | ? | 01/2016 | 151/99/84/52 |
Perl Upright | 6.0 | Grotrian-Steinweg Mod. 120 | ? | 12/2022 | 182/121/102/65 |
Felt Piano | 6.2 | Yamaha SU118 | modified: felt inserted between hammers and strings | 01/2022 | 186/115/97/61 |
Baby Upright | 6.1 | Nordiska compact | ? | 12/2017 | 136/95/83/50 (124/87/76/46) |
Amber Upright | 6.2 | Grotrian-Steinweg Concerto G132 | ? | 07/2017 | 165/102/87/53 (162/100/84/51) |
Bambino Upright | 6.2 | Baldwin spinet piano (Acrosonic, as Pscooter63 guesses) | 6.1 L and XL have an issue on the loudest F6 and F#6 sound; obviously, 6.2 (available through the NP5 factory bundle) and 5.4 versions don't (see here) | 07/2016 | 132/102/86/55 (125/97/82/52) |
Mellow Upright | 6.1 | Bösendorfer C 130 | extra soft felt hammers | 10/2014 | 170/98/81/50 (171/98/80/50) |
Grand Upright | 5.4 | Yamaha U3 | ? | 10/2013 | 160/86/71/43 |
Queen Upright | 5.3 | Bösendorfer ? | ? | 03/2011 | 66/52/32 |
Black Upright | 6.1 | Petrof 132 | softened hammers | 03/2011 | 79/59/38 (65/52/33) |
HonkyTonk Upright | 6.1 | Baumgardt | modified: nails replacing felt hammers | 03/2011 | 57/47/29 (55/45/28) |
Saloon Upright | 5.3 | Baumgardt | detuned | 03/2011 | 61/49/30 |
Romantic Upright | 6.1 | Schimmel Fortissimo 108 'Chippendale' (1967) | ? | 03/2011 | 73/59/ (60/48/29)36 |
BlueSwede Large Upright | 5.3 | Östlind & Almquist (now: Malmsjö) | stereo | 03/2011 | 69/56/34 |
Rain Piano | 5.3 | Svenska Pianofabriken | close-up miking (by SampleTekk) | 03/2011 | 47/37/23 |
EGrand 3 | 6.1 | Yamaha CP80 | tube amped | 02/2014 | 22 (63/31) |
EGrand 2 Gerbstadt | 5.3 | Gerbstadt Grand with CP80-pickups | ? | 03/2011 | 6 |
EGrand 1 CP80 | 5.3 | Yamaha CP80 | ? | 03/2011 | 9 |
DigiGrand 2 | 6.0 | Roland RD1000 (according to Tony White/Bonner's) | ? | 08/2017 | 10 (10) |
DigiGrand 1 | 6.0 | Roland XP80 ? | ? | 08/2017 | 12 (10) |
DX Rubba Tines | 6.0 | Yamaha DX7 | FM synth based Rhodes piano imitation | 05/2015 | 20 |
DX Full Tines | 6.0 | Yamaha DX7 | FM synth based DynoMy Rhodes piano imitation | 05/2015 | 21 |
EP 9 Stockholm | 6.0 | Rhodes Mk I (1976) Stage Piano | extended dynamic range | 06/2023 | 101/51/35 |
EP 8 Nefertiti MkI | 6.2 | Fender Rhodes Mk I (1970) Suitcase "Nefertiti Club Göteborg" | slightly uneven timbre/dynamics/sustain | 12/2018 | 29/14/8 (20) |
EP 7 Amped Tines | 6.1 | Rhodes Mk I Piano | tube amped | 12/2018 | 33/18 (31) |
EP 6 Sparkletop | 6.1 | Fender Rhodes 'Silvertop' Electric Piano (1967) | new (felt) hammers, ideal timbre | 12/2018 | 19/11 (12) |
EP 5 Bright Tines | 6.1 | Rhodes Mk I (1975) Suitcase Piano | partially hard hammers, bright timbre, 'close miking' | 12/2018 | 24/15 (15) |
EP 4 Mk5 80s | 6.1 | Rhodes Mk V (1984) Stage Piano | ideal timbre, close volume | 12/2018 | 12/7 (7) |
EP 3 Shallow Close | 6.1 | Rhodes Mk II (1981) Stage Piano | shallow timbre, close-up | 12/2018 | 11/7 (7) |
EP 2 Ideal Timbre | 6.1 | Rhodes Mk I (1975) Suitcase Piano | ideal timbre, close volume | 12/2018 | 10/7 (6) |
EP 1 Deep Timbre | 6.1 | Rhodes Mk I (1978) Stage Piano | deep timbre, low amplitude (more fundamental) | 12/2018 | 12/7 (6) |
Wurlitzer 2 Amped | 6.1 | Wurlitzer Piano 200A | tube amped | 12/2013 | 24 |
Wurlitzer 1 | 6.3 | Wurlitzer Piano 200A | straight? | 03/2011 | 8 (6) |
Clavinet D6 | 6.1 | Hohner Clavinet D6 | ? | 05/2010 | 6 |
I didn't label the timbre of the APs because this will schedule too much. Besides, most information given at the moment is available through hints that anyone can get with a Nord under his/her fingers. There are some claims and rumours about relations to SampleTekk sounds; the only one I really believe in is this short forum entry. Details for release dates thanks to a post from ajstan.
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