NS(4) Reverb Effect Chain Question

[jonilikeskeys]

Thank you for the quick reply!
I have another thing which is, in my understanding, the same problem:

If you "hide" a harsh attack using a morphed fade-in (same sound as explained above), that harsh attack will become audible in the delay section.

Dry signal: fade-in - no attack
Wet signal: harsh attack, because - as written above - the layer volume stands even above the effects.

You would expect the delay effect to be true to the originally played sound, right?

I will add these things both to the list and also report them. I'm just checking if my expectation maybe is completely wrong.

Would it be a workaround (til it is fixed in a further firmware) to assign the amount of delay to the Pedal, too?

Regards
Tim

Hey Tim,
that works in fact! great idea.
Thank you!

[fabiokey]

A nice "workaround" is to use synth section and use filter cutoff as a..... "volume"
This way . "real" volume is not touched and deelay and reverbs acts like is pre-fader...
Is not SOLVING all...but can help in certain circumstances....
That said , I wait (and hope) for an update.....
Is crazy something works properly in previous models (pre faders effects), is not proper in last one (post fader) ...
expecially in a 4K gear....

[jonilikeskeys]

A nice "workaround" is to use synth section and use filter cutoff as a..... "volume"
This way . "real" volume is not touched and deelay and reverbs acts like is pre-fader...
Is not SOLVING all...but can help in certain circumstances....
That said , I wait (and hope) for an update.....
Is crazy something works properly in previous models (pre faders effects), is not proper in last one (post fader) ...
expecially in a 4K gear....

Yeah, that works relatively well - especially if you use the 12db "flat" filter.
I wrote that in another post: a completly "flat" filter would be awesome - it would fix the whole thing. Of course it would not have a cutoff frequency since there is none. But you could just use the cutoff frequency knob as some kind of "level".

When a traditional cutoff filter is something like that:
level
^
|
|_______
|.......... \
|_________\_________> frequency
cutoff frequency knob changing the cutoff frequency of that filter

I'm thinking of one more filter doing this:
level
^
|
|_______________
|
|_________________> frequency
cutoff frequency knob changing the overall amplitude of that "non-filter"

I would argue that sounds we want to use with that kind of reverb tail are mostly acoustic sounds like strings and so on. These are sounds we'll mostly use as pure samples, so they wouldn't be already used with a filter.

Well... these are just ideas, but maybe a bit more easy to do than the whole effect chain thing.

(I know these are just ideas I'm posting in a forum and this is not Clavia...)

[dalgaard]

So frustrating. Nord are not listening to users on this in spite of many threads raising the issue. Do not get your hopes up and stay with a Stage 3 if you have the option