Vst that sounds like Royal Grand 3D

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Vst that sounds like Royal Grand 3D

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I work mostly from a Macbook M2 running logic and Noire. I find my self missing The Royal Grand 3D thats in my home. That piano is perfect to me. Is there any vst that has some of the same mojo. I have Ni Noire and Keyscape and I prefer Noire but its still not quite up there with the Royal Grand 3 D…

That piano just sings
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The Royal Grand 3D is the sample of a Yamaha S6, so you may want to search for Piano VSTs that have sampled the same piano.

Here there is one for example https://www.pianobook.co.uk/packs/the-e ... yamaha-s6/ but I haven't personally tried it (on the Mac I have ViLabs Ravenscroft 275 and Yamaha C7 from Acoustic Samples).

Consider anyway that a good sample is only part of the whole picture, the number of layers and the quality of the sample player engine in managing them + the secondary artifacts (resonances, noises) are just as important.

On most piano VSTs, besides, you have many parameters you can change to alter the sound (microphones positioning, eq, velocity curve, dynamics...) and that can change quite drastically the feeling you get when playing them (particularly the velocity curve and how well it adapts to the master keyboard you are using) while Royal 3D has to be pre-set to play well only a Nord keyboard (where each keybed is also calibrated at the factory so that the Piano engine doesn't have to care about that). How much have you tried to tweak the VSTi pianos you already own?

PS: have you ever tried Pianoteq also? It has a free demo version and some binaural presets (because the Royal 3D is a binaural sample, that also has some importance)
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Maybe the new MODERN D by VILabs sound close to Royal Grand 3D ??!

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Nordine wrote: 09 Oct 2024, 19:28 Maybe the new MODERN D by VILabs sound close to Royal Grand 3D ??!

https://www.vilabsaudio.com/modernd
It will be probably different because that's a Steinway and Royal Grand 3D is a Yamaha... nevertheless, from demos, the Model D by ViLabs sounds like a very good Virtual Piano (like the Ravenscroft 275 already was, but sounding different)
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Off topic: has anyone tried the Royal Grand 3D on a live set? Sounds gorgeous but idk if it's mono compatible or sounds "right" on stage.

To answer the op: I use both the Royal Grand and Keyscape, and the "vibe" is very similar. Keyscape comes with several presets, you'll surely find one that is close.
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peterpanning wrote: 24 Jan 2025, 00:00 Off topic: has anyone tried the Royal Grand 3D on a live set? Sounds gorgeous but idk if it's mono compatible or sounds "right" on stage.

To answer the op: I use both the Royal Grand and Keyscape, and the "vibe" is very similar. Keyscape comes with several presets, you'll surely find one that is close.
IMO the Royal Grand 3D holds up fairly well in mono, as do the Queen Upright and the White Grand. Black Upright is good if you want that sound. The Royal is my favorite grand overall for live work...it's hard to make it sound bad.
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