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Post by Barstar2 »

Can Stage 2 Nord be tuned to A 432?
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Re: Tuning

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No alternative tunings for the Stage, sorry. Something I wish for in an update, with different temperaments...
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Re: Tuning

Post by FunKey »

It depends on what you mean. There is a fine-tune setting in the system menu, which you can change from 440Hz to 432Hz. You can't use Pythagorean tuning or different temperaments, though, as sakari said.
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Re: Tuning

Post by Johannes »

Sakari is right that different temperaments than the "wohltemperierte Stimmung" where each semitone has the ratio of 2^(1/12) to the previous note are not possible on the NS2.

However, if you want to simply detune all keys in a linear fashion, you can do that using the SYSTEM menu. There you can tune the Piano in cents away from the standard 440Hz. For your case, you can select either 431.9 or 432.2 Hz (due to the fact that cents are not exactly equivalen to integer Hertz numbers).
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Re: Tuning

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The next stage needs to address various tunings and also aftertouch/velocity curves via a menu, or some sort of interface.

It really is not good enough for such a high end instrument.
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Re: Tuning

Post by everlast88az »

Hey Johannes,

I am trying to follow your comments about tuning the NS2 via the system menu and manually detuning all the keys along the pythagorean 432Hz = middle C temperament.

When I go into the system menu, the only thing I've been able to alter was changing the level of semitones +/- 6 in each direction. There is a way to do this based on cents?

Would following your suggestion produce the correct pythagorean frequency ratios if done in this manner?

Could you explain why 431.9 and or 432.2 Hz are the recommended values to produce the 432Hz equivalent in cents?

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Re: Tuning

Post by Mr_-G- »

You cannot use pythagorean temperament, only 12-tone equal temperament, which of course can be tuned to A=432 (or close to that).

431.9 or 432.2 are no recommended values, just the values that the synth supports. The fine tuning is in cents ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cent_%28music%29 ) not in Hertz. There is no quantity in integer cents (1, 2, 3, etc., what the synth uses) that produce exactly 432.
431.9 is twice as closer to 432 than 432.2, but I really doubt that we can tell the difference (according to the link above, 5-6 cents differences are detectable).
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Re: Tuning

Post by RedLeo »

Detuning it to 432 isn't going to make any difference anyway. It'll just sound exactly the same, but marginally lower in pitch. Sorry, but no special magic is going to happen.
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Re: Tuning

Post by analogika »

If you are playing along with material that is tuned lower, then you can use the global detune.

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Re: Tuning

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analogika wrote:If you are doing it for cosmic reasons, you are a gullible fool who has fallen for the most ludicrous pseudo-scientific bullshit since the anti-vaccination scare.
I think i have just been out-grumped.

I wasn't thinking the same thing at all, no sir, not me.
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