Leslie Studio 12

[Mooser]

A Studio 12 for the organ, and a good powered speaker or two for the other keyboards. Could buy both for less than the cost of a 3300, and have money left over for accessories.

[mtier0067]

Mooser. That's what I am going for... I have been through nearly every clone/speaker/sim combination out there and I think this may be the best option. A 1000W powered monitor sitting on top of a studio 12. a 57 on top rotor and a sennheiser e602 or something on the bottom 4ch snake to bring both mics and the stereo signal from the keys to FOH. Dream rig awaits... or will this just be another disappointment in my everlasting quest to bring real hammond sound to small gigs...

[Quai34]

Do you think that the Leslie studio 12 will be enough power wise to compete with two guitarists and a drummer for monitoring your organ? I currently play my organ and keys through two 1000w 10' powered speaker but I'm a little bit concerned if I switch to the Leslie for organ?

[Michael Wright]

Do you think that the Leslie studio 12 will be enough power wise to compete with two guitarists and a drummer for monitoring your organ? I currently play my organ and keys through two 1000w 10' powered speaker but I'm a little bit concerned if I switch to the Leslie for organ?

No.

[tacitus]

Well, 'no', but depending on the players involved and on the way you run your Studio 12 as a monitor. You'll be miking it up for FOH anyway, so you could probably site it so that you can hear it OK unless the guitarists and drummer are even heavier-handed than usual. Plus you could fold a bit back into a separate monitor if you can't put the Leslie where you can hear it directly. So, possibly, with ingenuity and at least some co-operation from the rest of the band, 'yes'.

Whatever wattage the Leslie puts out (100?), it's going to look small against a 1,000 watt speaker, but in dbs it's not so much.

[Emile]

Looks very transportable. I checked in 2013 and unfortunately the Studio12 is not available in Europe due to CE-safety-restrictions. At least, that is what Hammnond-Europe is saying. Maybe they want to sell some 3300's first. Current price (2015) is about 3400 dollar in Germany. The Studio 12 is also not available in Japan. Only if Japan steps in for modification then total market will be large enough. Australia/New Zealand unknown. Can somebody check?

Can you import the 12 somehow and change the main power to 230V/50Hz?

Suppose if you add some low-end like subwoofer it will work out. The 3300 has some limitations below 70Hz anyway too.
See : http://www.organissimo.org/3300review_1.htm
The thing is that The organ bass-freqs can be very low and do not always have that much uppertones.

"Back home I decided I would try to determine why the low frequencies of the 3300 were not satisfying with organissimo . I did several tests with a logarhythmic sine-wave sweep from 10Hz to 20kHz using the 3300's 1/4" line input. Under 40Hz or so, the sound totally drops off. 40Hz itself is quite low in volume. In fact, it isn't until about 70Hz or so that the 3300 seems to really come alive. I did some voltage tests on the back of the 15" woofer to make sure the amp was actually feeding the speaker those low frequencies and sure enough it is. From my experiments, I think the woofer probably has a usable frequency range starting at only 55Hz or so. It may even be in the upper 50Hz, low 60Hz range. "

"For right now, the easiest and least expensive fix is to use the Yorkville NX55P to supplement the bass, via the sub output of the 3300. The combination works very well and sounds great"

So I suppose it could also work with the Studio 12.

Because wave-lengths below 100Hz are a couple of times longer than the movement of the leslie-components not much extra is expected from the leslie-effect although I'm not sure how it will work out with together played uppertones by other notes. At 100Hz the wavelength can be calculated : speed of sound / frequency =343 m/s (or 1115 ft) / 100Hz = 3.40 meter (or 134 inch). At 50Hz it will be doubled in length. So the wave-shape will not change that much by freq modulation.

A leslie 860, a small one, has a 120W solid state. It goes loud enough, but not that deep. It will keep up with drums.

[Emile]

If you want to add a subwoofer, please take care of the specs provided.

Often you'll find something like lowest freq = 45Hz. If you'll read closer and if (o yes) it is provided you can see in what db-range it will deliver this 45 Hz. Mostly it means it is a range referred to the 100Hz level, but not always. Sometimes it is just the resulting response between 20 and 150 Hz or something.

If it says +/- 3 dB it's ok, but more often you'll find numbers like +/- 10dB which is a lot less. It could also mean that there are fluctuations in bass-reproduction, resulting in a very bumpy sound: some bassnotes will be very loud, some way to soft. Maybe nice for a danceparty, not for bassplaying. Now these few Hz difference seems not that important... well, just listen...

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The difference here is not that much:

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If you find something like a freq response of the sub in a graph, look at the drop-off point at about -3/-6dB. The lowest freq there is what you have.

This one is great. I wil not mention the brand. If you see the graph you think it's great stuff:

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The thing is, it is about the amplifier, not about the result of the subwoofer as a whole, including the speaker and box (and interaction between amp and speaker and filters).

Ideally for small gigs without PA could be a nice small sub, not too loud, but which does really 30Hz +/- 3dB, that should be great. Until now they are hard to find.

[Mooser]

Don't forget, the 330 has a subwoofer outlet on the panel. With a volume control. The Studio 12 does not. I think most subs have their own high-pass filter, possibly even adjustable, but you won't be able to plug it directly in to the Studio 12