New AC Piano Sound from CLAVIA - Silver GRAND

[oyarsa]

You're not imagining anything, the notes are indeed panned. If you only take one side, you lose a lot of volume from either high notes or low notes. Yet people seem to prefer to do that rather than use the mono switch. Baffling.

Sometimes I monitor in mono and my system just sums the left and right channels, but I've never noticed any significant phase issues. But I sure as hell noticed the drop in note volume when I tried using one output alone.

[LtSwifty]

Interesting. You could take a jack from the right channel and make your lower notes much quieter without having to use EQ to take the bass out of the upper notes. Very useful if your bass player is complaining about you playing too much with your left hand.

[SingerNick]

Interesting. You could take a jack from the right channel and make your lower notes much quieter without having to use EQ to take the bass out of the upper notes. Very useful if your bass player is complaining about you playing too much with your left hand.

I've recently transitioned from home use to regular gigging with my NP2, and I'm starting to consider this left hand phenomenon. For songwriting, I enjoyed the darker pianos (particularly the fullness of the Queen Upright), but now I'm questioning what to use on stage with electric bass and rock instruments. Is the thinner low end a particular trait that draws players to these bright grand pianos, such as the new Silver? Naturally I get pretty heavy with the left hand octaves, so perhaps a different sample would be less aggressive and redundant for those frequencies...

[Mr_-G-]

Sorry if the thread is going a bit off topic... I cannot understand why Clavia has not produced more mono piano samples. Those playing mono would definitely benefit with the freeing of the extra RAM.

[maxpiano]

Interesting. You could take a jack from the right channel and make your lower notes much quieter without having to use EQ to take the bass out of the upper notes. Very useful if your bass player is complaining about you playing too much with your left hand.

I am afraid you would loose too much in the mid and mid-low too, the "body" of piano sound; better use the EQ (imho)

[pablomastodon]

depends on musical context -- different things work better in different places

bless,

pablo

[maurus]

Exactly - you're a wise man, Pablo!
But Mr._-G- has a good point above as well.

[analogika]

Interesting. You could take a jack from the right channel and make your lower notes much quieter without having to use EQ to take the bass out of the upper notes. Very useful if your bass player is complaining about you playing too much with your left hand.

I've recently transitioned from home use to regular gigging with my NP2, and I'm starting to consider this left hand phenomenon. For songwriting, I enjoyed the darker pianos (particularly the fullness of the Queen Upright), but now I'm questioning what to use on stage with electric bass and rock instruments. Is the thinner low end a particular trait that draws players to these bright grand pianos, such as the new Silver? Naturally I get pretty heavy with the left hand octaves, so perhaps a different sample would be less aggressive and redundant for those frequencies...

The main reason I use brighter and "lighter" pianos live is because they sit in the mix audibly without muddying up the lower mids, where you've got guitars and strings and male vocals and toms and whatever else going on. In a pop context, it's often not so much about what sounds the most realistic or beautiful, but what performs the function in the most unobtrusive/most easily managed way.

[GeeDeWee]

Sometimes the sounds I use in a band-setting (not only the piano's) do not sound quite that nice 'stand alone', but work out very nicely in the mix.
As for the left hand: it's free for drinking beer during gigs quite a lot

[Nordrik]

I would be interested whoa people use in band situations with electric bass,guitar,drums.

I use bright grand mostly, and sometime grand imperial, and for rock stuff tend to use black upright.

Going to try this silver grand out.

Sometimes a piano sound thin or not full bodied but playing with a band who are providing those low frequencies the piano sits better in the mix.

What piano do people use in a band situation if they don't want to cut through but just sit nicely (barely noticeable) with the band?