Anyone also disappointed by the W2?

[DJKeys]

They need to fix the keybed.. and realize, for a WAVE synth, it SHOULD have synth action, and NOT organ action... different vibes/feels.
Also, they need someone to make better presets.
Hope this all gets addressed in Wave 3. I'm willing to give it another chance in V3.

Since there has not been even a minor update for their only current synth (NW2) in 20 months, I seriously doubt any of these major changes will ever happen. I speculate that the TP/9S keybed in the Wave would have been much more expensive than the waterfall keybed they chose.

The presets personally don't matter to me as I only kept a handful of them to see how they were constructed and deleted the rest.

-dj

[MarkJames]

They need to fix the keybed.. and realize, for a WAVE synth, it SHOULD have synth action, and NOT organ action... different vibes/feels.
Also, they need someone to make better presets.
Hope this all gets addressed in Wave 3. I'm willing to give it another chance in V3.

Since there has not been even a minor update for their only current synth (NW2) in 20 months, I seriously doubt any of these major changes will ever happen. I speculate that the TP/9S keybed in the Wave would have been much more expensive than the waterfall keybed they chose.

The presets personally don't matter to me as I only kept a handful of them to see how they were constructed and deleted the rest.

-dj

I actually like the TP/8O action as it mimics my Stage 3 Compact. I just added a Prophet Rev 2 keyboard with the TP/9S as my top board (will sell the module) so I have the best of both worlds.

I think the 9 is either the same price as the 8 or slightly cheaper. It’s in the Modal Argon and Cobalt which is a LOT less than a Wave 2. I believe the expensive Moog One uses a TP/8S.

[MarkJames]

The only thing I'm worried about is that Clavia might 'discover' home users as their principal customers. Which would be a sad thing considering that expertise in live use.

Besides, I don't care what sort of music is being played for marketing purpose. But that's perhaps because I'm pop/jazz centered, too. And I'm not one of the younger customers.

The only way I see them focusing on “home” use is if they run into financial trouble or are sold. Nord is a strong brand in the US for live performance and worship bands in churches.

[DJKeys]

They need to fix the keybed.. and realize, for a WAVE synth, it SHOULD have synth action, and NOT organ action... different vibes/feels.
Also, they need someone to make better presets.
Hope this all gets addressed in Wave 3. I'm willing to give it another chance in V3.

Since there has not been even a minor update for their only current synth (NW2) in 20 months, I seriously doubt any of these major changes will ever happen. I speculate that the TP/9S keybed in the Wave would have been much more expensive than the waterfall keybed they chose.

The presets personally don't matter to me as I only kept a handful of them to see how they were constructed and deleted the rest.

-dj

I actually like the TP/8O action as it mimics my Stage 3 Compact. I just added a Prophet Rev 2 keyboard with the TP/9S as my top board (will sell the module) so I have the best of both worlds.

I think the 9 is either the same price as the 8 or slightly cheaper. It’s in the Modal Argon and Cobalt which is a LOT less than a Wave 2. I believe the expensive Moog One uses a TP/8S.

I think the TP/80 is fine as well. I like the TP/9s, (had the Prophet 6) but the TP/8S is the best I have ever felt. It was on my K5000S and Access Virus Keyboard. I think those keys are slightly longer and have textured sharps.

-dj

[Rcmusic]

TP/8S is the best

Totally agree, the best one i've played too, too bad it was not widely used

[DJKeys]

TP/8S is the best

Totally agree, the best one i've played too, too bad it was not widely used

The TP/9 I think costs less and comes in many different lengths, TP/8S is 61 and 76 keys only-

-dj

[MarkJames]

TP/8S is the best

Totally agree, the best one i've played too, too bad it was not widely used

The TP/9 I think costs less and comes in many different lengths, TP/8S is 61 and 76 keys only-

-dj

https://synthcube.com/cart/fatar-synthesizer-keybeds

TP/9S shows $40 less than TP/8S. So if you have a 61-key need it’s not a huge difference, but if you’re selling a keyboard like the Modal Argon 8X that probably represents your profit margin on the product.

[DJKeys]

Yes, the keybed is always one of the largest manufacturing costs-

-dj

[MarkJames]

Yes, the keybed is always one of the largest manufacturing costs-

-dj

And in my view the largest determinant if I’ll buy a keyboard or not!

I tested out the Korg OpSix and Wavestate at Guitar Center. Fun sounds but horrible feel. Bought the VSTs instead.

[DJKeys]

Yes, the keybed is always one of the largest manufacturing costs-

-dj

And in my view the largest determinant if I’ll buy a keyboard or not!

I tested out the Korg OpSix and Wavestate at Guitar Center. Fun sounds but horrible feel. Bought the VSTs instead.

Yep, all of the new lower-end Korg products have awful keybeds-

-dj