Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

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Right, the ability to switch to a new Program, and not have the previous sound instantly cut off.
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Yes! If they will just fix the chorus/vibrato and add an option to route the reverb AFTER the leslie, I’ll be totally satisfied!
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And change the level and decay of percus. We are in 2017, all clones do that...
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stringtapper wrote:I’m guessing he means the Seamless Transition feature…?
Yes that is my French that did not understood, you are right :-)
The patch remain is the program seamless transition...

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Obwanz wrote:Yes! If they will just fix the chorus/vibrato and add an option to route the reverb AFTER the leslie, I’ll be totally satisfied!
For me too,

For me, the reverb is the reverb of the room...so I’m not a big fan of the reverb into the Leslie...
At least, if I use a program where the organ is one of the principal sound, I will put the organ in panel A and the amount of reverb won’t be high. I’ll use panel B for other sounds that need more reverb.

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I get why they did that, I just think it should be an option (per patch)
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stringtapper wrote:I’m guessing he means the Seamless Transition feature…?
Patch remain is the Kurzweil term for Seamless Transition.

But no matter what you call it, it is a welcome addition if you are trying to play a gig with a single board. :keyboard:
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Obwanz wrote:Yes! If they will just fix the chorus/vibrato and add an option to route the reverb AFTER the leslie, I’ll be totally satisfied!
Well, you at least have the option of turning the reverb off, and running the audio out through a reverb pedal. And if they had done it the other way and fixed the reverb to be only after the leslie, you wouldn't be able to duplicate the path of a Leslie 122RV (and some Hammond organ models, I believe) where there actually is a spring reverb unit before the rotary effect, and that where would be no comparably simple workaround for that one! Yeah, switchable would be nice too, but we know Nord is more about simplicity than about providing every possible option anyone might want. So I'm okay with this.
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stringtapper wrote:I’m guessing he means the Seamless Transition feature…?
Yes that is my French that did not understood, you are right :-)
The patch remain is the program seamless transition...
Gospelkeys wrote:Patch remain is the Kurzweil term for Seamless Transition.
I believe the term originated with Roland. And I understand why it would be a strange term for a non-native English speaker, because it's an awkward (not immediately obvious) term even for an English speaker! Which is something that makes a little more sense if you consider that the term probably originated from someone who's native tongue was Japanese.
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anotherscott wrote:There is one thing about the NE5D I think I'd miss, though... when doing a split, I like that you can, for example, change your right-hand sound from organ to piano with a single button. On the NS3, I think you'd have to go to one button to turn the organ off and another button to turn the piano on.
There may be way of achieving a similar effect -- as follows:

1) Create panel A with e.g. a bass in your left hand and a piano in the right hand. Create panel B (in the same program) with a bass/organ split. If you press button A (within that program) your're bass/piano. A single press on button B gives you bass/organ, with no interruption in ongoing sounds, and pedal down works as intended, etc.

2) Create two programs that have whatever combinations you like and store make a song that has one part 1 and the other as part 2. Select that song, and now you have buttons 1 and 2 to change between those two programs (and also 3, 4 and 5 if you like).

A variant of this to stay in normal (non-song mode) and then have the programs adjacent to one another and use the program dial to change between them.

3) Create a program that has your bass in the left hand and then piano and organ in the right hand (overlaid). Assign med mod wheel or your control panel to morph their volumes, so that you can go from a 0% organ and 100% piano to 100% piano and 0% organ. This makes it possible to fade very quickly between the two sounds any time you like (or even play both, if you'd find that useful).

Just some ideas -- there may be other/even better ways too :-)
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Some good ideas there, baekgaard! Conceptually there is a difference in that they all require pre-planning of some sort, whereas I was more talking about the idea of being able to do this kind of thing on the fly. That said, you can't do all that much of it on the fly on an NE5D anyway, simply because, in any 2-way split, one sound must be a piano or organ, so it's still not like you could grab any sound at any time and put it on whatever side of the keyboard you'd like... something very few keyboards are adept at, really. If you're playing LH bass, to use your example, the *only* things you can switch among in your RH are piano and organ sounds. Which is why, really, the NE5D is not very useful as a LHB board. (If they had an additional "KB Split Mode" that permitted the lower part to independently send MIDI the way the current implementation works for the upper part, one could grab a LH bass sound from even an iPhone/iPad, and have any Nord sound at all available for your right hand... alas, they have not implemented that functionality. Only the upper part is well designed for triggering an external sound, which is a shame if you play LH bass.)
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