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Rusty Mike wrote:I don't know if this is something they changed (or intend to change) on the Stage 3. Even if they did, the upgrade cost to gain that one feature is not worth it to me.
Well yeah, that would be a lot to spend for that one feature, even if it had it. (Of course, the NS3 has a lot of other nice advantages over the NS2.)
You could consider adding the Gemini Desktop module to your rig, which probably handles the percussion/drawbar stealing correctly, it gives you the whole VB3 engine from the Crumar Mojo (so should be better overall than the organ in the NS2), along with a bunch of other stuff.
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 17:54
by jiimjo
Try shutting off the chorus/vib in the organ section and use chorus 1 in the effects section.
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 20:45
by kbrkr
jiimjo wrote:Try shutting off the chorus/vib in the organ section and use chorus 1 in the effects section.
Good thought, however, I think the sound artifacts are vastly different. The effects section Chorus sounds like it doubles the sound and detunes, whereas the Hammond sound does not.
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 20:52
by analogika
The scanner vibrato/Chorus of a Hammond sounds *nothing* like an electronic chorus.
FWIW, I really like the C3 on the Stage 3. Sounds “right” to me and makes the sound behave more like my ‘68 B-3 than the NS2 did...
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 21:39
by Obwanz
analogika wrote:The scanner vibrato/Chorus of a Hammond sounds *nothing* like an electronic chorus.
FWIW, I really like the C3 on the Stage 3. Sounds “right” to me and makes the sound behave more like my ‘68 B-3 than the NS2 did...
C3 setting sounds like the C2 setting on every B3 and clone wheel I’ve ever played
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 22:11
by Rusty Mike
anotherscott wrote:
You could consider adding the Gemini Desktop module to your rig, which probably handles the percussion/drawbar stealing correctly, it gives you the whole VB3 engine from the Crumar Mojo (so should be better overall than the organ in the NS2), along with a bunch of other stuff.
I’m fine with just living with it. The 2EX is a great single rig solution for everything I do. I have an Electro 4D when I need a 2nd tier.
I just wondered if they addressed this in the Stage 3. No interest in an upgrade myself.
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 23:34
by Yernez
I own nord electro 5 and can verify that NS3 hammond is worse than electro. On ns3 you can not set the key click volume to higher as on ne5, have no B3 bounce control, no percussion control, no hi/low rotary balance and leslie EQ is much thinner than on NE5 and even hammond tone-wheel is wierd. Sound loudnes is stronger on lower part of keyboard very much different than on NE5.
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 00:08
by lordy
Not cool for ns3 owners.
I got so much difficult to find the good sound. I need the hi/low rotary balance, i find the sound too thin, too bassy, even with just the first drawbar. Less bass change nothing.
I really like Nord would include these parameters found in the ne5 ou c2d.
Why ns3 shoud have less possibilities about the organ. No.
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 03:08
by kbrkr
Yernez wrote:I own nord electro 5 and can verify that NS3 hammond is worse than electro. On ns3 you can not set the key click volume to higher as on ne5, have no B3 bounce control, no percussion control, no hi/low rotary balance and leslie EQ is much thinner than on NE5 and even hammond tone-wheel is wierd. Sound loudnes is stronger on lower part of keyboard very much different than on NE5.
Feels like giving people reason to buy NE5 all so to have better hammond than on NS3.
Thanks for the comparison. Not having previously owned a Nord, I had heard the Hammond sounds were legendary. You confirm my finding in that I find the NS3C very average sounding as a clonewheel and frustrating there are not that many controls to tweak the sound to my liking.
Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound
Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 04:18
by Gospelkeys
Thought I would share this. Good to hear an instrument in context.
2 Short clips from my debut gig with the NS3. I was promised more video but my friends were more interested in socializing than taking video - but here is what I got.
Short and sweet. First clip is some "Silver grand" piano work in Feelin Alright - next is a brief except from my organ solo in Whippin Post.
I’m fine with just living with it. The 2EX is a great single rig solution for everything I do. I have an Electro 4D when I need a 2nd tier.