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sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 18:03
by varignet
Hi,
the roland dp series sustain pedal has half pedal functionality.
I was wondering if anybody has had any luck using this pedal with the Nord piano and got added functionality compared to other sustain pedals?
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 23:52
by baekgaard
I doubt it would work fully as you may want it, but I don't have first-hand evidence that it's not working.
The Nord tripple pedal uses something like 4 different steps from up to down. So even if a Roland pedal could potentially work in half-pedalling mode, then there may be other things that doesn't work as you intend it.
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 11:30
by Bjosko
I have the Korg DS-1H, bought it for my Kronos, but it are working as half-damper and pedal noise on my NS3.
That said, I find the half-damper useless from this pedal, since there are no mechanical feedback from the pedal, like on a real piano, and therefore difficult to find the half-damper point in it’s motion.
The pedal noise work as velocity senitive.
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 11:57
by varignet
Bjosko wrote:I have the Korg DS-1H, bought it for my Kronos, but it are working as half-damper and pedal noise on my NS3.
That said, I find the half-damper useless from this pedal, since there are no mechanical feedback from the pedal, like on a real piano, and therefore difficult to find the half-damper point in it’s motion.
The pedal noise work as velocity senitive.
great to hear, so the korg ds1h would work as an alternative to the nord triple piano pedal for pedal noise
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 10 Aug 2024, 01:14
by Midinotes
I have the Roland DP-10 which has a variable resistor and will support half pedalling. I tried it on Nord Stage 4 but the problem is the action is inverted i.e. the notes are sustained by default and pressing the pedal turns off sustain! Unfortunately there is no way to change this for a half-damper pedal on the Nord other than rewiring the pedal.
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 10 Aug 2024, 13:09
by M_a_c
Midinotes wrote: ↑10 Aug 2024, 01:14
I have the Roland DP-10 which has a variable resistor and will support half pedalling. I tried it on Nord Stage 4 but the problem is the action is inverted i.e. the notes are sustained by default and pressing the pedal turns off sustain! Unfortunately there is no way to change this for a half-damper pedal on the Nord other than rewiring the pedal.
... got the DP-10 on my NS4 - and no troubles...
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 10 Aug 2024, 13:23
by maxpiano
M_a_c wrote: ↑10 Aug 2024, 13:09
Midinotes wrote: ↑10 Aug 2024, 01:14
I have the Roland DP-10 which has a variable resistor and will support half pedalling. I tried it on Nord Stage 4 but the problem is the action is inverted i.e. the notes are sustained by default and pressing the pedal turns off sustain! Unfortunately there is no way to change this for a half-damper pedal on the Nord other than rewiring the pedal.
... got the DP-10 on my NS4 - and no troubles...
Are you using in Switch or Continuous mode? Because it is in Continuous that it may need rewiring
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 10 Aug 2024, 13:48
by M_a_c
... just checked it for both modes and simply switched between the continous and switch Functions on the DP-10 without reconnecting or changing something - works fine...
Strange...
I just tested it on a Yamaha YC61 (only switch mode) also and there it is "invertet" with the YC61 standard settings.
Back to the NS4 and it work still fine...
And just to be sure, I took a second DP-10 from another key - works fine also.
My NS4 runs on 1.42. ...
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 10 Aug 2024, 14:15
by Midinotes
Yes I would like to use the DP-10 in continuous mode (for half-pedalling) but the action is reversed. There does not seem to be an option to invert this in the Nord settings so my plan is to rewire the potentiometer inside the DP-10. If that works I might put a switch on the rear of the pedal so in future I can flip it between Roland and Nord. Would be nice to utilise the DP-10 for half pedalling as I've got a spare, rather than buy a NS2 pedal.
I also have a Stage 4 with OS 1.42. Weird that yours works, unless maybe it detects the polarity on switch on?
Simon
Re: sustain pedal roland dp series
Posted: 10 Aug 2024, 14:39
by maxpiano
Midinotes wrote: ↑10 Aug 2024, 14:15
Yes I would like to use the DP-10 in continuous mode (for half-pedalling) but the action is reversed. There does not seem to be an option to invert this in the Nord settings so my plan is to rewire the potentiometer inside the DP-10. If that works I might put a switch on the rear of the pedal so in future I can flip it between Roland and Nord. Would be nice to utilise the DP-10 for half pedalling as I've got a spare, rather than buy a NS2 pedal.
I also have a Stage 4 with OS 1.42. Weird that yours works, unless maybe it detects the polarity on switch on?
Simon
Yes that's what you need to do, I also had to build an adapter to be able to use the DP10 (Continuous) with a Yamaha CK88 (luckily the Yamaha FC3 wiring is easy to find on the web, not sure about the NSP2 but anyway you have just a few combinations possible to try)