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Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 08:21
by Thomasrichard
Hi
Just got my first Nord ( stage 4 )
Anyone know if/how it's possible to send midi clock from my NS4 to Autura Minifreak, so that i can control the tempo with my nord triple padal 2?

Thanks

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 10:59
by Berretje
From the Nord Stage 4 manual:
The master Clock on the Stage 4 can be controlled by incoming mIDI clock messages. This is an automatic behavior: as soon as the Stage 4 receives midi clock on the midi input or the USB midi input, the master Clock will be synchronized to the incoming external clock.
Not sure (and @other_users; correct me if I'm wrong), but the NS4 does not send out a MIDI (master) clock signal. It only uses the clock for internal timing. But it can receive an external master clock signal

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 10:59
by Berretje
Thomasrichard wrote:Hi
Just got my first Nord ( stage 4 )
Anyone know if/how it's possible to send midi clock from my NS4 to Autura Minifreak, so that i can control the tempo with my nord triple padal 2?

Thanks
From the Nord Stage 4 manual:
The master Clock on the Stage 4 can be controlled by incoming midi clock messages. This is an automatic behavior: as soon as the Stage 4 receives midi clock on the midi input or the USB midi input, the master Clock will be synchronized to the incoming external clock.
Not sure (and @other_users; correct me if I'm wrong), but the NS4 does not send out a MIDI (master) clock signal. It only uses the clock for internal timing. But it can receive an external master clock signal

So for both questions: no, that's not possible.

Edit: you can use the pedal for controlling the internal master clock of the nord stage (page 39 of the manual).

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 11:07
by Thomasrichard
Ahh. was hoping to be able to control "the master clock " with NS4 pedal tab tempo when gigging without click

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 11:34
by Berretje
Thomasrichard wrote:Ahh. was hoping to be able to control "the master clock " with NS4 pedal tab tempo when gigging without click
Check my edit on my post!

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 12:38
by Thomasrichard
yeah. thanks.
I know about the internal sync, but looking for an option for external sync ( to control my Minifreak )

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 12:42
by maxpiano
Thomasrichard wrote:yeah. thanks.
I know about the internal sync, but looking for an option for external sync ( to control my Minifreak )
You can only to do the opposite, have the Minifreak to control the clock of the NS4, not viceversa so you can't tap tempo on NS4 and sync the Minifreak from NS4 clock. To resolve this use case, you need a 3rd device which can do tap tempo and be the master clock for both NS4 and Minifreak

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 12:44
by Thomasrichard
ok. Thanks :-( ( to bad the minifreak does not have tap tempo)

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 23 Nov 2023, 21:33
by Gazerith
The Nord Stage 4 cannot send or receive clock sync.
It is a known issue - Nord is aware. Theyre just taking a long time to fix it.
Very frustrating.
The clock sync receive wanders and jumps randomly. It always takes up to 16 bars to get in time.
Totally unacceptable from such an expensive product.

Re: Nord stage 4 midi Clock

Posted: 29 Nov 2023, 13:38
by Ecaroh
To be precise Nord Stage is NOT meant to send midi clock, as far as I know. Since the beginning Stage models have only synced to incoming Midi clock. But now the crucial problem is that NS4 do not sync properly to it. It was the first issue I found when I got NS4 on early June and I reported it to Clavia and also put it to Bug sheet (ID 33). From Clavia I got a response that they are trying to fix it. Well now 6 months later situation is same. I’ve asked couple of times and always answer is that they are looking into it. What the h**l, is there something really wrong in hardware or are they seriuosly trying to fix this? I know there are many other Midi related issues but still I see this quite strange that nothing seems to happen. Big question is that why did they release their 4K flatahip product with so many crucial problems which make them quite unusable is certain setups like mine…?