C2D with Leslie 122

[CableguyDK]

Hi,

I have the Nord C2D which I have been using with only the internal leslie for a couple of years. But now I am the lucky owner of a Leslie 122XB and it really sounds good.

My question is: Do I have to turn off the internal Leslie on the C2D manually, when I have my 122 plugged into the 11-pin - or do the organ automatically turn off the internal leslie effect, when the 11-pin is plugged?

[tacitus]

I've not tried it, but I understand the rotary sim in the Nord doesn't get disabled when you use the 11-pin. So you could have two stages of rotary, which would sound dreadful but somebody, somewhere, would think it funky!

Perhaps one of us with the necessary hardware could verify that?

[Mooser]

As far as I know (C2, 11-pin 3300) the Leslie "sim" does not go out the 11 pin. It does go out the L+R, if on.

[CamboC2D]

That is correct Mooser.

[Mooser]

That's a good thing, you can send a clean signal to the Leslie, and the L+R with sim can go to the house board, and all controlled by the halfmoon.

[MarkHale]

Hi Folks,

This is my first post on the forum as well. My main question is quite elementary. I have two vintage Leslie 122 speaker cabinets and I would like to use the 11 pin Leslie output on my C2D to drive them. Hammond / Leslie makes a Model 1122 adapter kit for this purpose, however they tend to cost about $300.00 or so each. Does anyone know of a less expensive but equally high quality adapter system? Does NORD make an adapter unit that will do this?

Thank You!
Mark

[tacitus]

Remember (or learn, if you didn't already know) that the adapter kit is needed to introduce mains voltage to the Leslie, which in the 'good' old days came form the organ itself. Now that procedure is not regarded as good practice any more, the adapter kit provides a safe way to get power to the Leslie.

If you're not comfortable making an adapter yourself, and competent to work with mains, then I think $300 is a good deal for getting the job done. I don't know of another supplier of this - there isn't that big a market for them. Despite there being about a million or so Hammond organs still existing (wild guess, but in the right order of magnitude) when you take away the ones that don't work, the ones that the owner already has a Leslie sorted out, the ones where the owner IS prepared to make his or her own adapter and the ones where either the organ or the Leslie has been modded so the standard adapter is no longer right, you don't have a lot left to go on. Then when this number is split down into the various types of Leslie and Hammond organ connectors that have been used over the years, that's quite a few models for a small total number of units.

I built an adapter for my Sonorous rotary speaker to connect the 9-pin cable (like a Leslie 760) to the high level output on the Nord, the half-moon switch on the Nord and the mains. I couldn't conveniently source the 9-pin Amphenol connectors, so I cannibalised the cable that came with the speaker and now only have this break-out cable to connect the speaker to anything at all. I spent about $50 on components, and if I'd built the whole shebang from end to end, the components would have cost more than that. Add in some labour, overheads, distribution and profit, and you can see that there's not going to be much incentive for anybody to undercut Hammond's $300 price tag.

I'd just buy the damn' thing and get playing ...

[Mooser]

I'm with Tacitus. If I was lucky enough to have 2 (two!) vintage 122s and an C2D I wouldn't hesitate to pay the cost to have it "kitted" (my word for it) correctly.
BTW I do believe a 122xb (new version) is now $4000. And they don't come with the kit, either.

Of course, the 122xb is already 11-pin. All you would need is an 11-pin cable, and a halfmoon or footswitch plugged into the organ. An 11-pin cable runs $100, and a Nord half-moon is about $249. So even there, it costs a couple hundred dollars to get an organ connected to a Leslie.